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I read with discuss the overly egotistical and totally pointless summary written by the preceeding entry. Imagine the futility of proving anything via emails,and a potporri of opinion. I was an IOT Adept during the days of Bob Williams, and I can truthfully state, most people outside of the Los Angeles and Scottsdale chaos magickal scene had no real clue. The fact is, IOT USA started in Los Angeles by Bob Williams; and I was initiated shortly thereafter. Lola Babalon was also part of the organization. The fact remains, the IOT had a strong effect on my magical life. Many people have interesting views about my journey; most have never met me, and outside of my interactions with Bob and his girlfriend; all else lacks in any kind of wholistic intregrity. That being said, I feel the IOT had many strong points, and my explorations with the IOT made me a better person, and help me understand the alchemical process of undoing through magick. On the whole, most people in IOT had their own missions, idealogies, and myth. One is in absolute folly to think, accurate historical accounts can be gleaned from emails. There were literally hundreds of phone calls, which have never been recorded. Lets, not forget hundreds of person to person meetings, of which these so called emails fail to encompass. There is no real value to such a project. But, the fact will remain, everyone I trained in magick, are today responsible active citizens, who left the IOT years ago for the same reasons I did. Bob frequently alluded to the fact of our own personal dysfunctions must be dissolved and overcomed. He was big on self reliance, and strongly liked the idea of the Diamond path analogies. Yet, if we are to understand Bob, then, all he really wanted was for people to conduct their lives in a way of power and awareness. In truth, the IOT died when Bob left the planet. Though it has survived in name only, one knows the current remained with those who felt his touch. No amount of propaganda or historic revisionism can truly erase the positive effect of the IOT during his leadership. There were many loves and jobs lost during that time. Many felt I became a mental case; yet, I cannot pretend to defend who I was then, though I know in the end; we all emerged with a brighter vision and a stronger sense of purpose. I resigned from the IOT because my own growth necessitated it. I had a child to raise, and logic heavily encouraged I devout my energeies to other activities. Though, the original IOT temple founded so many years ago, still functions in silent, after all the years. Perhaps, that is fitting tribute enough.

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Looking forward to this chthonic(dirt) book... From: dagon@... Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 05:28:52 To: No Reply<notify-dg-chaos-worldwide@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [chaos-worldwide] Digest Number 2105 Heh, chaos magick is dead. It had visions of becoming the dominent paradigm amongst other magickal paradigms but has failed miserably. The Peter Principle in action... I can say the beginning of the end began with josh wetzel aka fra. Palimpsest... From the time he started a temple everything in the usa became a lesser being than its former self. A book detailing the rise and fall of the usa IOT is forthcoming with all the sordid details... Who lied and cheated to get recognition, who broke their oaths, who stabbed who in in the back and who had lost control of their egos... All correspondence, emails, etc to provide the facts. It will be my last contribution to this genre which since the mid '90s has become a laughing stock of itself... I imagine many will cringe at the thought of this what with those that married or fucked themselves to the top, others that stabbed fraters in the back to get ahead when they could hardly move an inch in their obsesitity. A spark of hope that flamed brightly with the likes of Peter Carroll, Lola Balalon, Robert Williams, Dave Lee, Nick Hall, Dr. Hyatt, Phil Hine and yours truly Douglas Grant the glue that kept the USA IOT from sinking into obscurity. My thanks do go out to George Holohurchst(sp?) Who managed to keep some of the bright light of earlier years alive today. This book goes out to Peter Carroll, Phil Hine, Ian Read, Lionel Snell aka Ramsey Dukes, the crazey austrin motherfucker / ex el salvadorian whose name escapes me and Charlie who taught me how to light people on fair in the midst of a crazy IOT orgy.

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I look to see a book

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Hey, Its great to see the Dagon url in the data. Always had the highest regard for you, Doug. I am still a practitioner of magick, and work with Maatian, and Experimental paradigms. So much water under the bridge since the chaotic days, of which we affiliated with the IOT; I have continued my Freemasonic Studies and progressing through the required work. Professionally I am working and providing service to humanity through various NGO's; and am currently volunteering. May the City of Pyramids, Greet You

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hey douglas, ii heard from a just-met that youre out & about. i lost my fone last year w/ your #, so call me.

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Good to see that you are well and thriving luv & everything Cyn

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Thank you for providing BlackSun.CHM as a free download. From a preliminary browse of the material, it is a valuable resource for any LHP practioner.

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